Cooperatives used to be about 70% of total. It's now 59%, driven by the new developments which are all condos. Got this from Brachablog.
Manhattan, New York real estate, one of the world's best investments. Buying the right condo, renting out to tenants and eventually selling. By Weimin Tan, top Manhattan agent with media interviews by CNBC, CNN, New York Times, WSJ. Ex-Citibanker, originally from Malaysia, Manhattan resident since 1999, fitness enthusiast. tan@castle-avenue.com
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
1Q'09 Market Report
Manhattan may start getting affordable and not just for the rich? Median Re-sale price declined 20%.
Miller Samuel Manhattan Market Report Q1'09
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Case Schiller report
New York Metro area declined 10.20% vs 1 year ago and -1.20% since January
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/04/28/a-look-at-case-shiller-numbers-by-metro-area-8/
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/04/28/a-look-at-case-shiller-numbers-by-metro-area-8/
Thursday, April 23, 2009
A Rough Analysis
Based on the numbers in the prior postings, a condo in Manhattan has a 45% premium over a coop. The traditional benchmark has been around 30%. The 45% premium is likely influenced by the more expensive new development sales.
A coop in Manhattan is about double the price of a condo in Brooklyn on a PSF basis.
A coop in Manhattan is about double the price of a condo in Brooklyn on a PSF basis.
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Brooklyn 1Q'09 Market Report
http://www.millersamuel.com/reports/pdf-reports/BMO1Q09.pdf
Condos:
Avg sales price $531,889, -7% vs 1yr ago
Avg price per Sf $475, -11% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -57% vs 1yr ago
Condos:
Avg sales price $531,889, -7% vs 1yr ago
Avg price per Sf $475, -11% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -57% vs 1yr ago
Manhattan Market Report 1Q'09
Miller Samuel's 1Q'09 Manhattan Market Report
Condo 1Q'09:
Median sales price $1.227 million, + 5.8% vs 1yr ago,
Price per SF $1,413, -0.2% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -39% vs 1yr ago
Coop 1Q'09
Median sales price $587,500, -22% vs 1yr ago,
Price per SF $968, -14% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -59% vs 1yr ago
http://www.millersamuel.com/reports/pdf-reports/MMO1Q09.pdf
Condo 1Q'09:
Median sales price $1.227 million, + 5.8% vs 1yr ago,
Price per SF $1,413, -0.2% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -39% vs 1yr ago
Coop 1Q'09
Median sales price $587,500, -22% vs 1yr ago,
Price per SF $968, -14% vs 1yr ago
Number of sales -59% vs 1yr ago
http://www.millersamuel.com/reports/pdf-reports/MMO1Q09.pdf
Saturday, April 4, 2009
Manhattan Real Estate Declines
The 1Q’09 Manhattan real estate numbers were published last week. Overall, number of transactions declined by 48 percent compared to a year ago, accordingly to Miller Samuel Appraisers. Median price increased 3 percent to $975,000. However, this is largely influenced by the sales of new developments. Excluding new developments, the median price declined 21 percent to $675,000. Recall that this was my prediction back in 4Q’08 and the media is now all over about Manhattan’s real estate downturn.
The median price of a coop apartment was $587,000, 22 percent lower than a year ago. The median price of a condo increased by 5.8% to $1.23 million but this is influenced by the new developments. Number of transactions for coops decreased 59 percent while transactions for condos decreased 39 percent.
Prices will continue to go down because the data we are seeing now are from contracts signed 6-9 months ago. The data for current transactions is very likely to be even lower given the overall pessimism in the economy over the past several months. In 2009, the Dow went to the 6000s and the debate about taxing bonuses of bankers does not increase enthusiasm.
The number of transactions shows the dramatic decrease in activity in the Manhattan real estate market. While the rest of the country started their real estate downturn reports a year or more ago, Manhattan’s turn is just starting now.
Based on the average price of housing relative to household income, prices in Manhattan are still much higher than the historical average. But the key point from the released data is that the official downturn has started in Manhattan.
Brokers are now turning into “buyer brokers” because there are virtually no sellers or sellers with realistic asking prices. The brokers and brokerage firms are now telling clients it is a good time to buy. During the bubble, it was a good time to buy because prices kept going up. Now, it is a good time to buy because prices are coming down. Obviously, the interest of the broker is with the commission and not the buyer. However, sellers are still not bringing their prices down enough for buyers to bid.
Sellers are still adamant with their asking prices, unwilling to accept the fact that prices in Manhattan has declined. Buyers obviously do not want to offer anywhere close to the asking prices. As result, a lot is on a stand still.
The buyers are the market because they represent the demand side of the equation. They are the ones forking out the money to make a transaction happen. Without buyers, there is no market because sellers will be left asking their non realistic prices.
Hence to make the market move again, the buyers need to see prices they think are reasonable. This basically means asking prices have to come down further. There are buyers whose current strategy is to offer at 20 to 40 percent lower than asking price. However, not all buyers choose to do this given the time and resources involved in making offers.
To buyers, I would advise starting the search process and tracking data closely. Sellers will get more flexible over the months. The correction period may take another 1 year but at least the market has acknowledged that prices do come down in Manhattan.
This is the time for buyers to be demanding. This includes asking for the seller to pay for closing costs, cash at closing to make renovations and asking for escrow reserves to be paid by the seller.
The median price of a coop apartment was $587,000, 22 percent lower than a year ago. The median price of a condo increased by 5.8% to $1.23 million but this is influenced by the new developments. Number of transactions for coops decreased 59 percent while transactions for condos decreased 39 percent.
Prices will continue to go down because the data we are seeing now are from contracts signed 6-9 months ago. The data for current transactions is very likely to be even lower given the overall pessimism in the economy over the past several months. In 2009, the Dow went to the 6000s and the debate about taxing bonuses of bankers does not increase enthusiasm.
The number of transactions shows the dramatic decrease in activity in the Manhattan real estate market. While the rest of the country started their real estate downturn reports a year or more ago, Manhattan’s turn is just starting now.
Based on the average price of housing relative to household income, prices in Manhattan are still much higher than the historical average. But the key point from the released data is that the official downturn has started in Manhattan.
Brokers are now turning into “buyer brokers” because there are virtually no sellers or sellers with realistic asking prices. The brokers and brokerage firms are now telling clients it is a good time to buy. During the bubble, it was a good time to buy because prices kept going up. Now, it is a good time to buy because prices are coming down. Obviously, the interest of the broker is with the commission and not the buyer. However, sellers are still not bringing their prices down enough for buyers to bid.
Sellers are still adamant with their asking prices, unwilling to accept the fact that prices in Manhattan has declined. Buyers obviously do not want to offer anywhere close to the asking prices. As result, a lot is on a stand still.
The buyers are the market because they represent the demand side of the equation. They are the ones forking out the money to make a transaction happen. Without buyers, there is no market because sellers will be left asking their non realistic prices.
Hence to make the market move again, the buyers need to see prices they think are reasonable. This basically means asking prices have to come down further. There are buyers whose current strategy is to offer at 20 to 40 percent lower than asking price. However, not all buyers choose to do this given the time and resources involved in making offers.
To buyers, I would advise starting the search process and tracking data closely. Sellers will get more flexible over the months. The correction period may take another 1 year but at least the market has acknowledged that prices do come down in Manhattan.
This is the time for buyers to be demanding. This includes asking for the seller to pay for closing costs, cash at closing to make renovations and asking for escrow reserves to be paid by the seller.
Friday, April 3, 2009
My views on 90% bonus tax
The 90% bonus tax is RIDICULOUS. High bonus is the market rate for bankers. Bankers have a choice of London, Hong Kong etc. With this tax, New York (hence the US) will lose talent to other countries and the US would no longer be the financial capital of the world.
Hong Kong's tax rate is 15%. New York's tax is 40%+. Add that crazy 90% bonus tax, who wants to work here?! On bailouts, the government should let banks fail and start over. Bailouts will result in major inflation and weakening of the US dollar. The 90% bonus tax was annouced AFTER the bailouts were received. it shudl have been announced as a criteria BEFORE the bailouts were handed out. Recall that some companies did not want the bailouts.
Finally, who owns the Federal Reserve? It's owned by the consortium of banks that make up the board of directors. These are the same banks getting the bailouts. Hence, the bailouts were given by the Fed to it's own owners. Of course the banks would take the bailouts in the first place. But the employees get penalized after the fact.
Hong Kong's tax rate is 15%. New York's tax is 40%+. Add that crazy 90% bonus tax, who wants to work here?! On bailouts, the government should let banks fail and start over. Bailouts will result in major inflation and weakening of the US dollar. The 90% bonus tax was annouced AFTER the bailouts were received. it shudl have been announced as a criteria BEFORE the bailouts were handed out. Recall that some companies did not want the bailouts.
Finally, who owns the Federal Reserve? It's owned by the consortium of banks that make up the board of directors. These are the same banks getting the bailouts. Hence, the bailouts were given by the Fed to it's own owners. Of course the banks would take the bailouts in the first place. But the employees get penalized after the fact.
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